Hopefully in st. louis the 3rd week in June 2011 at the next VHCMA, We did this year in Atlanta, and we had had some 20 plus members there. And had a great time, also the hotel has already set the rates at a low 66 Dollars a night rate with alot included.. Tom can tell more about all this, But if more want to hold it somewhere else we can see about that too.. paul sr Gator137